gregdek ([info]gregdek) wrote,
@ 2008-04-23 14:07:00
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You may notice...
...a lot more Portuguese on Planet Fedora lately.

This was at my urging. I think that we have an unnecessarily English-centric view of our Fedora world. After having met so many awesome Brasilieros at FISL, my first thought was "I want to see these guys blog." So I asked them all to provide their blog feeds, and a number have obliged.

With immediate benefits. Today I was delighted to discover that Diego will be participating in GSoC to work on Transifex, and that Tulio sees a strong resemblance between Maddog and Santa, and that Duda needs to package nttcp for Fedora. :)

I know that many of our English readers find it painful to read through posts in multiple languages. It might be nice to figure out how to filter the Planet feed by language, for those who care, and to have one great big polyglot feed for those of us who love the international flavor.

And no, I don't read Portuguese. Yet. But until I learn, Google translations are good enough. Seriously. Install the Firefox extension, and rudimentary translations are a right-click away.

Viva o Fedora! Brazil was awesome, and I will *definitely* be back.

(Pictures of my friends and I drinking mate will be coming soon.)



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[info]skvidal
2008-04-24 05:05 am UTC (link)
multiple language planets

there's a filter to attempt to sort out the planets by guessing at what language a particular post is in. For our multilingual posters this is, of course, doom.

I've been thinking up various options to allow fedora contributors to add themselves to various feeds and I think I have one that involves using fedorapeople.org accounts and dirs in there.

We shall see.

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[info]nicubunulj
2008-04-24 05:53 am UTC (link)
Multiple language planets like this: the big, fat, Planet Fedora with *all* the languages stay in place and then planets filtered by language: one for English, another for French, Portuguese and so on...

With this in mind, I don't think I would start anytime soon blogging in my native language, it is not available in Google translator or any other similar service.

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Yeah...
[info]gregdek
2008-04-24 04:17 pm UTC (link)
...this is what I had in mind.

Unfortunate that there's no Romanian-English translation offered. Seems odd -- there's a lot of Romanian speakers in the tech world, I've noticed.

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[info]nicubunulj
2008-04-25 05:51 am UTC (link)
I can think of another problem with the increased number of feeds aggregated on Planet Fedora: it became more volatile - if you are offline for a couple of days, you surely will lost some posts.
Unfortunately, I can't come with a good solution for that: increasing the number of posts displayed on the page is a short term solution (more feeds will be added) and not a good one (how long can we make the page?).
It would be cool if Planet could keep an archive, say 45 posts on the front page and a few more pages with older posts, so we have on multiple pages something like all the posts from one week.

Having additional filtered sub-planets can alleviate this problem, as they are less volatile. And we can go on a filter frenzy (as long as we keep also the main aggregation) and create sub-planets for topics: development, art, etc.

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I agree
[info]teseu.wordpress.com
2008-04-25 07:16 am UTC (link)
I think it's such a good idea to have some kind of arquive too, maybe like those you can see in "blogger" or "wordpress" you can find an especific post by clicking in determinated month, in this case an especific day, because of the big number of posts, and I hope the number will be a lot bigger soon.

About filtering posts by language, all blogs aplications work with tags, a tag with the language, in my case something like "Language - pt-BR" could save a great deal in programing time identifying the language of the source blog. If implemeted, all blogs has been registered by admin of Planet, just send an email telling them to creat a tag with this standard. All bloggers can do something like that without any problem. Posts without this tag will not filtered, and only will apear in "non filtered" mode, along all posts. This rule can help to implement the idea. The owners of the blogs will want to use the tag.

I almost creat an abstract in the beggining of the post, in english, but this would be unconfotable to Brazilian readers, and I think the others bloggers wouldn't do it. But just a tag, this could be easy, I'd do it.

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Re: I agree
[info]nicubunulj
2008-04-25 08:40 am UTC (link)
I forgot to add in my previous message: too bad that PlanetPlanet does not support this kind of archiving (I maintain myself a few Planet websites so I am not a stranger to its usage)

As for tags... the solution as I see it is to use the normal RSS feed of your blog for the main page and for the filtered sub-planet use a RSS feed for that specific tag ("Language - pt-BR") - AFAIK both Wordpress and Blogger.com can provide specific feeds for tags - but other service may not support this feature.

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you did it
[info]teseu.wordpress.com
2008-04-25 06:02 am UTC (link)
I submit my blog to Fedora Planet, like you suggested, you were talking about read, via google translation, and you really did it, great!

I'll wait fot that photos, ok? This FISL was a good oportunit to make friends and know those we know just by email. See ya.

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